Hi all
Well, I'm back from Asia - having spent the last couple of weeks in Hong Kong, Taipei & Singapore on business.
On the right here you can see a picture of me at a late-night Pearl Bubble Tea place (珍珠奶茶) (zhēnzhūnǎichá) in Taipei, near the main station. Medicinal purposes only, of course. :-)
I made some purchases while out there, including two Taiwanese TV series, a couple of Chinese movies, some Mandarin music, and a few cartoon books in simplified Chinese. I can't wait to get the time to start working (playing?) through them.
Ten months ago I came back from a business trip to China, unable to read any Chinese, and with a much more basic conversational skill. Being there at the time really gave me the incentive to boost my learning, which is why, upon my return, I started actively using flashcards, looking for a method to learn to read & write (I chose Heisig) ... and I started this blog.
And now I am pleased to see that the difference in my skill level was really obvious. I could read lots of the signs (although knowing the individual characters didn't always help me work out what it actually meant!) and my conversations were very much more, uhm, substantial. I'm very pleased.
And for the record - I've not been much of a student. I've only put in about 30-45 minutes a day, most of which is just listening to podcasts while travelling to and from work. But I was at least consistent.
Also, being in the environment, I was thinking lots about learning Chinese - and I drafted the skeleton of a number of articles which I intend to fully write up over the next couple of months.
I'd love you to follow along, so make sure you're subscribed - using the usual RSS feed, via email, or even on Twitter.
Speak soon
Greg
Tuesday, March 30, 2010
Tuesday, March 2, 2010
Something happened to my Mandarin!
Have you seen it too? Over the last couple of weeks, I've noticed something has changed in my Mandarin. I'm focusing here on the difference between (mentally) translating, and (intellectually) understanding.
I would love to be able to tell you that I woke up one morning and discovered I was perfectly fluent - but that's not true. And I don't know exactly when it happened, but given the level of the material & discussion partners I've been working with lately, I can see signs of it now.
Basically, I'm understanding without understanding. Bruce Lee would have been proud of this statement ("The art of fighting, without fighting"), but it makes sense if you think about it ...
I'm sure you know what it's like in your Mandarin world too ... when someone says 你好 (nǐhǎo) to you, you probably don't have translate nǐhǎo='Hello' (thinks: "Ah, they're saying hello to me. What friendly people."). You just know they mean 'hello' and you respond to that.
OK, so in recent months I've mainly been listening to elementary-level podcasts (ChinesePod equivalent), and I could understand most of what I heard. The conversation was at a slow enough level that I could pretty much translate sentences, word-by-word, and understand it all as I went along.
But my language partners have been speaking a bit faster to me, and I've been listening to intermediate-level podcasts, and although it's too fast for me to be able to mentally translate word-by-word, I still find that I'm reaching the end of the conversation with a rough idea of what I'm hearing.
Of course, there are plenty of cases where I can understand (without translating) most of the sentence, but because I don't get the main word, I don't fully know what the sentence actually means. But I still get enough to know that I'm on the right track.
So I'm responding to this by trying to shut down my conscious mind, and just listen (without trying to translate). And although it's still managing to evade me, I have noticed I am definitely operating at a higher level.
Something has definitely happened.
Have you experiened something similar? Do you remember the first time you understood what someone was saying to you even though you didn't seem to hear the words they were using? Or is this something you're still waiting for? Please leave a comment - I'd love to hear from you.
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Tuesday, February 23, 2010
Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore ... here I come in March
In the second half of March I will be visiting Hong Kong, Taipei & Singapore on business.I'm guessing that I'll only be in those cities for about 3 days each - but I'm hoping I'll have a little bit of spare time in the evenings, or weekends (depending where I am) to meet up with some of you.
So if you live there, and you'd like to meet up, please drop me a note at the following address (I'm sure you can work it out):
greg ((at)) Mandarin Segments ((dot)) com
I look forward to meeting some of you.
Greg
Friday, February 19, 2010
Heisig - wherefore art thou now?
Nearly three months ago, I announced that I had finished working my way through Heisig's "Book 1" on learning to read & write the first 1500 characters Chinese characters. I just wanted to update you on what I've been doing since them in terms of reading/writing.Whether you're interested because deep down inside you're a voyeur, or because you're curious what may be in store for you when you finish book 1, please keep reading ...
This is an update on my experiment to learn to read Chinese. You can also read my original post on this topic, or check out all other posts on my experiment. After a bit of research I settled on Heisig's "Remembering the Simplified Hanzi" method - which is progressing really well.
The observations are quite simple:
- I have done almost no revision using the Heisig book (although I did try for the first week after completing the book). I have not used any Heisig flashcards either.
- I did become increasingly aware, while doing Heisig, of the importance of knowing lots of compound words, and have since put lots of effort into that - instead of revising Heisig.
- I do try to read some tweets in Chinese, the odd Chinese website, and some Chinese cartoon & children's books I bought a few months ago.
- Of the 1500 hanzi that I learned, I would guess that I know 500 really well so that I can read them without having to work out what it means, 500 I have to work out using the Heisig image system, and 500 I have probably forgotten and will have to re-learn (although that will be pretty quick I'm sure).
Of course I'm disappointed to have forgotten anything at all, but sometimes that's the reality of living in the Real World (tm) - and not having enough time to do what you want. However, don't confuse forgetting some characters with having wasted my time.
This has not been a waste of time. In fact, my time with Heisig still feels like a massive success.
I am now very comfortable using instant chat with my Chinese friends (Skype, QQ, Sametime), communicating only in hanzi. There is very little more satisfying for me at the moment than closing down a Skype window, for example, staring at dozens of lines of pure Chinese characters. (Even now, a little self-satisfied shiver runs down my spine :-)
I'm sure I will spend time with Heisig Book 1 in future, actively revising. I just don't have time. Bit by bit, when I come across hanzi I don't recognise, I will look them up, remember the Heisig image, and they will become firmly embedded too.
And eventually, I'll take up Book 2. (Although at this rate, I might be ready for Book 2 before Book 2 is ready for me!)
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Sunday, January 24, 2010
A Mandarin Moment
Hang on a sec', can I get your help quickly? Just hold this for a moment ... thanks, now take a quick look.These are really common English phrases, and it's quite useful (nay, very useful) to be able to say it in Mandarin. Fortunately, in true WordPack style, there is a very familiar pattern that links these, and other similar phrases.
The pattern is: 一下
yí xià: Literally this means "one down", but the dictionary translations look more like: one time / once / in a while / all of a sudden / give it a go (when used after a verb).
Here are some of the more common phrases that you'll hear, and certainly ones that you're very likely to use. If you're a little beyond beginner, then you probably already know most of the opening hanzi, in which case the phrases will be really easy to remember.
看一下: kàn yíxià: take a quick look
等一下: děng yíxià: wait a moment
让一下: ràng yíxià: literally this is "yield a moment", but it's used in the context of, for example, "Excuse me, can I get past you?"
拿一下: ná yíxià: hold this for a second
挑一下: tiāo yíxià: usually it's like "let me take my time to choose" (literally: choose a moment)
Now that you've got these phrases sorted, take a moment ...
Friday, January 22, 2010
Volunteering in China - charitable projects
Hi allI have two trips planned to Asia in March & May (and another to Japan in July, but we'll skip that since this is a Mandarin blog :-) ... and I am looking for your input. Please.
One of the things I'd like to do while in China is volunteer on some kind of charitable project for a week or so. I've done some research, and found some ideas - but perhaps you know of others?
Although I'd like to pretend that my interests are purely altruistic, there is of course a (slightly) selfish side. This would expose me to a different type of China experience, and perhaps give me an opportunity to practice my Mandarin in a non foreigner-in-big-city kind of way!
These are some of the ideas I've come across so far, but would really appreciate it if you could leave comments with other ideas, websites or suggestions.
- Volunteer teaching in Beijing
- Friends of Dulwich College, Beijing
- Bean in Shanghai
- Compassion for Migrant Children
- The Library Project
- SOS Children's Villages
- Chinese Children Orphan Sponsorship
- Western Academy of Beijing
I was convinced than when I trawled through the Net there would be so many options to volunteer on projects - and yet, as you can see, I'm struggling to find many choices.
So if you know of projects that might be of interest, or you know of someone who might know of projects of interest, please leave a comment. I'd love to help.
Greg
Tuesday, January 19, 2010
New Year Resolution: learn to speak Mandarin Chinese
OK, so here's the deal. What if you were offered $1 million dollars to learn to speak Chinese?
Forgive me for being presumptious ... but of course you would!
What you do, and Why you do it
There are two aspects to achieving any goal: (1) the technique behind what you're learning, and (2) the motivation to keep on applying that technique.
The reality for most people, however, is they focus on the technique - and they ignore the requisite motivation. And then they fail. Bummer.
Head-bangers
Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that you get all psyched up, banging your head against the wall, shouting, "Yes, dammit yes. I can do thisssssss!!"
But if you go back to the million dollars example, I think we all know that if there was enough resting on it, you'd find the time, you'd make the effort. And your excuses about how hard Chinese is, and how little time you have, would be forgotten as you work your brains out to get your reward.
But of course you don't need to have a million dollars at the finish line. Sadly, no-one has offered to pay me money once I'm fluent in Chinese - and yet here I am, 00:50 on a Monday night (uhm, Tuesday morning) blogging about learning Mandarin, thinking about what works and what doesn't work.
Make it happen
So spend a little time trying to work out why you're learning (or going to learn) Chinese.
But don't be lazy - don't wait for the inspiration. Try to create the inspiration. Get excited about travelling to China, or conversing with Chinese people in your local area.
And if you really think it's better to focus on learning, and to not worry about your motivations, then ask yourself .... who is going to become fluent first? Will it be the person who only has access to one podcast series, one textbook and one dictionary (but who has a million bucks resting on fluency)? Or will it be the person who had access to lots of podcasts, many textbooks, medical research papers into the optimal way to memorise lists - but no real interest in becoming fluent?
Motivation
So some of you are reading this post, rolling your eye-balls, and wondering if I've lost the plot. But others of you are (I hope) are going to take a little time to examine your own motivations.
If you're already learning Chinese, what got you motivated in the beginning? And what excites you now? Are there things you could do to re-ignite the flame?
And if you're new, take a moment to work out why you've set yourself the goal of learning Chinese. It really doesn't make a difference whether it's a dumb reason - if it fires you up, then use it.
Perhaps rate yourself on these questions, on a scale of 1-10 ...
But don't take my word for it ...
Once you've read this post, there are two things you could do.
What more evidence do you need that - ultimately - motivation is everything?
It's a simple challenge. As soon as you can speak Chinese at the level of the average school-leaver, you'd get your money. (This is hypothetical situation, please don't send me an invoice.)
Do you think that, before you went to bed tonight, you'd learn 10 more words? And maybe you'd revise yesterday's words too? Do you think, if getting a language-exchange partner would get you to your million dollars one year sooner, that you'd make the effort to find someone you could converse with?
Would you listen to more podcasts? Use flashcards more? Watch more Chinese-language movies?
What you do, and Why you do it
There are two aspects to achieving any goal: (1) the technique behind what you're learning, and (2) the motivation to keep on applying that technique.
The reality for most people, however, is they focus on the technique - and they ignore the requisite motivation. And then they fail. Bummer.
Head-bangers
Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that you get all psyched up, banging your head against the wall, shouting, "Yes, dammit yes. I can do thisssssss!!"
But if you go back to the million dollars example, I think we all know that if there was enough resting on it, you'd find the time, you'd make the effort. And your excuses about how hard Chinese is, and how little time you have, would be forgotten as you work your brains out to get your reward.
But of course you don't need to have a million dollars at the finish line. Sadly, no-one has offered to pay me money once I'm fluent in Chinese - and yet here I am, 00:50 on a Monday night (uhm, Tuesday morning) blogging about learning Mandarin, thinking about what works and what doesn't work.
Make it happen
So spend a little time trying to work out why you're learning (or going to learn) Chinese.
But don't be lazy - don't wait for the inspiration. Try to create the inspiration. Get excited about travelling to China, or conversing with Chinese people in your local area.
And if you really think it's better to focus on learning, and to not worry about your motivations, then ask yourself .... who is going to become fluent first? Will it be the person who only has access to one podcast series, one textbook and one dictionary (but who has a million bucks resting on fluency)? Or will it be the person who had access to lots of podcasts, many textbooks, medical research papers into the optimal way to memorise lists - but no real interest in becoming fluent?
Motivation
So some of you are reading this post, rolling your eye-balls, and wondering if I've lost the plot. But others of you are (I hope) are going to take a little time to examine your own motivations.
If you're already learning Chinese, what got you motivated in the beginning? And what excites you now? Are there things you could do to re-ignite the flame?
And if you're new, take a moment to work out why you've set yourself the goal of learning Chinese. It really doesn't make a difference whether it's a dumb reason - if it fires you up, then use it.
Perhaps rate yourself on these questions, on a scale of 1-10 ...
- Do you want to know another language?
- Are you embarrassed about only knowing one language? (Or two, or ...)
- Would you like to be able to impress the cute girl/guy in Accounting because you can speak their native tongue?
- How about aiming to impress your friends by ordering in Chinese, at a Chinese restaurant?
- Would you like to travel China, speaking to the locals in their own language?
- Would you like to make more friends? (There is no shortage of awesome Chinese people wherever you look.)
- Or would you like to move to China because of the opportunities that country offers, but you'd like to be different to all those people who go there and hang out in their little communities without learning the local language, even after several years?
- Is this just another challenge, because you're the kind of person who thrives off challenge and personal growth?
But don't take my word for it ...
Once you've read this post, there are two things you could do.
- Quickly learn some Chinese words. You might start off by reading one of my WordPacks, and find 3-5 words you don't know - and learn then. It won't take more than a couple of minutes.
- Do something else.
What more evidence do you need that - ultimately - motivation is everything?
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Friday, January 15, 2010
Tasting your way around the world
I recently wrote an article for Mango Languages with the above title.Please pop in and have a read, and make sure you leave a comment if you've had similar (or better) experiences.
To whet your appetite for the article, here's a picture of me eating a chicken head in Beijing :-x
Greg
Thursday, December 24, 2009
A Christmas Challenge!
Firstly, I'd like to thank all the readers of Mandarin Segments for their support during the year. Blogging is fun, but really connecting with you all has been fantastic! I appreciate the time you take to read my posts, but I especially appreciate the time you take to leave comments, to disagree, and to engage me. 非常感谢!And on the basis of your input, I'd like to pose a challenge to all of you ...
Although I spend a lot of time planning my articles, it's really the comments from readers that enhance the message that I'm trying to share, and that give other readers a wider perspective on the topic.
If you subscribe to Mandarin Segments through an RSS reader or through email, you might have the original post delivered to you, but you might not know about the comments that have subsequently been added. The same applies if you just link here from my Twitter account, without seeing any later input.
So I'd like to challenge you to go back an re-read some older posts, and catch up on the debate. Here are some suggestions as to what you might be interested to read (although feel free to read more widely than this) ...
Heisig - the experiment
Back in August I decided to learn to read and write Chinese. A few short months later I had learned 1500 characters from Heisig's "Remember the Simplified Hanzi, Book 1" (affiliated link) and I am now able to read basic texts quite well. Here are some of the key posts along the way:
- Day 0: the start of the experiment
- Day 6: stats on my early progress
- Day 18: 500 characters: but what is hurting? and also: how much of a page can I read?
- Day 46: 1000 characters - how is my learning?
- Day 106: 1500 done!!
WordPacks - making it easier to learn Chinese
- an introduction to WordPacks
- eg. a Chinese paper trail
- eg. Daily Dragons
- a link to all WordPacks
And some fun ...
- Why a meal is worth more to me than my grandmother...
- Pleasure while Practising
- Strangers on a train
- Delusions - when roadsigns become Chinese characters
- Do not scream!
So check out the posts, read the comments, and please feel free to leave more comments. I'd love to hear from you!
In the meantime, I wish you all the best for the holiday season - and a fantastic new year.
Greg
London, England
24 December 2009
Sunday, December 20, 2009
Daily Dragons
Do you believe in dragons? You might not know it, but you deal with dragons everyday. At least, you do if you speak Chinese.
This is another in my WordPack series, with this topic having been inspired by a post at the "Those crazy Chinese" blog. The goal of WordPacks is that, by linking these words together by a single theme, it makes it much easier to learn words. And if you're learning Chinese, let's face it, the more help you can get, the better.
The theme today is: dragons. (If you couldn't work that out from the title of the blog post then you really shouldn't be learning Chinese! :-)
The Simplified character for dragon is 龙 (and it is 龍 in traditional Chinese writing). Even if you're only learning Simplified, this is a good example of a character which you should also learn to recognise in Traditional - because it appears so often in the name of Chinese restaurants.
Daily Dragons
龙 : lóng: dragon (also a common surname)
水龙头 : shuǐlóngtóu: tap (water dragon head)
尼龙 : nílóng: nylon (nun dragon!)
龙船 : lóngchuán: Dragon boat
龙卷风 : lóngjuǎnfēng: tornado, cyclone (dragon curl wind)
变色龙 : biànsèlóng: chameleon (change colour dragon)
Dangerous Dragons
龙 : lóng: dragon
恐龙 : kǒnglóng: dinosaur (fear dragon)
霸王龙 : bàwánglóng: Tyrannosaurus Rex (mighty king dragon)
翼龙 : yìlóng: Pterodactyl (winged dragon)
Delicious Dragons
龙眼 : lóngyǎn: dragon fruit (dragon eye)
龙虾 : lóngxiā: lobster (dragon shrimp)
乌龙茶 : wūlóngchá: Oolong tea (dark dragon tea)
小龙虾 : xiǎolóngxiā: crayfish, langoustine (small dragon shrimp)
Dragons of Distinction
李小龙 : Lǐ Xiǎolóng: Bruce Lee's chinese names (Li small dragon)
成龙 : Chéng Lóng: (one of) Jackie Chan's chinese names (accomplish dragon)
九龙 : Jiǔlóng: Kowloon district of Hong Kong (nine dragons)
If you're a newbie, you should make sure that you can at least recognise 龙, and that you also remember the word: shuǐlóngtóu. At elementary, at least know the above, plus all food references. At intermediate you probably know all of them.
Off you go ... go slay another dragon!
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